{"id":"amodei-fast-diffusion","title":"Adoption can move fast and still take work","topicIds":["work-and-agency","intelligence-and-discovery"],"domain":"work","speaker":{"name":"Dario Amodei","roleAtSource":"Anthropic CEO, interviewed by Dwarkesh Patel","expertise":"Led language-model research at OpenAI before leading Anthropic.","claimBoundary":"Direct provider experience informs this forecast; it does not establish economy-wide productivity.","bioSources":[{"title":"Author biography","url":"https://darioamodei.com/"}],"declaredInterests":[{"text":"Leads a company selling the AI products discussed.","url":"https://darioamodei.com/"}]},"source":{"title":"Dario Amodei — “We are near the end of the exponential”","publisher":"Dwarkesh Podcast","format":"Interview transcript","url":"https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/dario-amodei-2","publishedAt":"2026-02-13","dateBasis":"Publication date displayed on original episode page.","anchor":{"label":"12:36 — Is diffusion cope?","url":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1E9IZfvGMA&t=756","timestampSeconds":756},"accessNote":"Original publisher page read on 2026-09-22; linked audio/video was not independently listened to."},"argument":"Amodei expects AI to spread through the economy unusually quickly, while procurement, permissions and organizational change still take time. 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