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· May 19, 2025

Rest of World interviews Karen Hao on alternatives to exploitative AI work

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published its interview with Karen Hao on May 19, 2025. Hao argues that psychologically damaging data work is not necessary for AI progress: it serves a vision built on colossal models trained on the whole internet. She says alternatives include well-scoped systems using curated datasets, and describes a Māori media organization’s speech recognition tool, built with community-provided data and rules for its use. Hao also says the AI industry moves work between populations and geographies in search of cheaper, more compliant labor, leaving it precarious. On artists’ livelihoods, she says concept artists are losing jobs or receiving extremely underpaid work because their work was taken to create models intended to replace them. Hao argues that ethically sourced data and alternative models are possible, but says tech companies have not adopted such models and have hijacked the public’s imagination of what AI should look like. The interview does not establish how widespread the effects on workers or artists are, or how much alternative approaches could reduce harmful work in practice.

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Original source date: May 19, 2025 (2025-05-19T10:00:00+00:00).

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Text as retrieved on November 5, 2026; originally published May 19, 2025. The interview does not quantify how many workers or artists are affected, or measure the effects of the alternative approaches described.

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What would lead AI companies to adopt approaches using ethically sourced data and curated datasets, rather than the development model Hao criticizes?

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Karen Hao argues that psychologically traumatizing work is not necessary for AI progress, but is tied to a particular vision of AI development using colossal models trained on the whole internet.

Psychologically traumatizing work is not necessary for progress; it serves only a particular vision of AI development that uses colossal models trained on the whole internet

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Hao says the AI industry shifts work across populations and geographies in search of cheaper, more compliant labor, leaving the work precarious.

The work remains precarious because the industry continually moves to different populations and geographies in search of cheaper, more compliant labor.

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Hao describes a Māori media organization’s speech recognition tool as using community-provided data and a license governing access and use.

A Maori media organization in New Zealand developed a speech recognition tool for the Maori language with data given by their community members, with consent.

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Hao says concept artists are losing work or receiving extremely underpaid jobs because their work was taken to create models intended to replace them.

concept artists are not getting jobs, or getting extremely underpaid jobs, because their work was taken by tech companies that created models to replace them.

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Hao says tech companies have not adopted alternative models and have hijacked the public’s imagination of what AI should look like.

But tech companies have chosen not to adopt any of them. And they have been so effective in completely hijacking the public’s imagination for what AI should look like

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The interview was published on May 19, 2025.

19 May 2025 In her new book, Empire of AI: Dreams and nightmares in Sam Altman’s OpenAI

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Rest of World interviews Karen Hao on alternatives to exploitative AI work

published its interview with Karen Hao on May 19, 2025. Hao argues that psychologically damaging data work is not necessary for AI progress: it serves a vision built on colossal models trained on the whole internet. She says alternatives include well-scoped systems using curated datasets, and describes a Māori media organization’s speech recognition tool, built with community-provided data and rules for its use. Hao also says the AI industry moves work between populations and geographies in search of cheaper, more compliant labor, leaving it precarious. On artists’ livelihoods, she says concept artists are losing jobs or receiving extremely underpaid work because their work was taken to create models intended to replace them. Hao argues that ethically sourced data and alternative models are possible, but says tech companies have not adopted such models and have hijacked the public’s imagination of what AI should look like. The interview does not establish how widespread the effects on workers or artists are, or how much alternative approaches could reduce harmful work in practice.

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Source details

Original source date: May 19, 2025 (2025-05-19T10:00:00+00:00).

Date basis: Date stated on the publisher’s page.

Added to Escape Meridian: 2026-11-14T01:58:23.850Z. First observed: 2026-11-05T11:09:48.149Z. Retrieved: 2026-11-05T11:11:39.440Z.

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Text as retrieved on November 5, 2026; originally published May 19, 2025. The interview does not quantify how many workers or artists are affected, or measure the effects of the alternative approaches described.

Open question

What would lead AI companies to adopt approaches using ethically sourced data and curated datasets, rather than the development model Hao criticizes?

Source-stated

Karen Hao argues that psychologically traumatizing work is not necessary for AI progress, but is tied to a particular vision of AI development using colossal models trained on the whole internet.

Psychologically traumatizing work is not necessary for progress; it serves only a particular vision of AI development that uses colossal models trained on the whole internet

Source-stated

Hao says the AI industry shifts work across populations and geographies in search of cheaper, more compliant labor, leaving the work precarious.

The work remains precarious because the industry continually moves to different populations and geographies in search of cheaper, more compliant labor.

Source-stated

Hao describes a Māori media organization’s speech recognition tool as using community-provided data and a license governing access and use.

A Maori media organization in New Zealand developed a speech recognition tool for the Maori language with data given by their community members, with consent.

Source-stated

Hao says concept artists are losing work or receiving extremely underpaid jobs because their work was taken to create models intended to replace them.

concept artists are not getting jobs, or getting extremely underpaid jobs, because their work was taken by tech companies that created models to replace them.

Source-stated

Hao says tech companies have not adopted alternative models and have hijacked the public’s imagination of what AI should look like.

But tech companies have chosen not to adopt any of them. And they have been so effective in completely hijacking the public’s imagination for what AI should look like

Source-stated

The interview was published on May 19, 2025.

19 May 2025 In her new book, Empire of AI: Dreams and nightmares in Sam Altman’s OpenAI

Source and contributor context

Rest of World · Publisher

The publisher is identified here. No individual author has been inferred.

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Media retrieval status: unchecked.

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Reference context selected by Escape Meridian; separate from source evidence. Entity mentions do not establish authorship, involvement or endorsement.

Rest of World

Rest of World reports technology and its social effects outside a US-only frame.

Editorial provenance

Version 1. Publication ID: 4578b492-f0d6-a820-c386-0afdb901f2c5.

Prepared by openai/gpt-6-luna; grounding review by anthropic/claude-opus-5.5.

Source check: uncertain by anthropic/claude-opus-5.5 on 2026-11-14T01:53:46.248Z. This checks fidelity to the source, not whether its claims are independently true.

Editorial selection: accept; reasons: bridge_admitted_by_model.

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Publication: 4578b492-f0d6-a820-c386-0afdb901f2c5

attribution — pass: The reading correctly frames this as a Rest of World interview with Karen Hao and attributes each argument to her ("Hao argues", "she says"). It does not name the interviewer, Michelle Kim, but that does not misattribute any claim. It is one piece, not a listing.

Hao spoke to Rest of World about the choices made by AI firms and alternative paths for AI development.

summary — uncertain: Essential context is missing. The reading never says who Karen Hao is: a journalist who was among the first to gain access to OpenAI, and author of the new book Empire of AI, which prompted the interview. It also says "psychologically damaging data work" without explaining that Hao means content moderation, where workers filter the worst content out of models trained on the internet. Smallest repair: add one clause identifying Hao and her book, and name the work as content moderation. Its other arguments are preserved faithfully, including the hijacked-imagination point and the Maori tool.

Content moderation for generative AI exposes workers to psychologically traumatic content.

date — pass: The stated date of May 19, 2025 matches the dateline and the UTC calendar day of evidence.originalPublished. The page was edited after publication (modifiedAt August 2025), but the cited interview answers are plainly part of the original piece. The reading includes no hindsight framing and no later events. Evidence kind is publisher-page, so no archive disclosure is needed.

By Michelle Kim 19 May 2025

support — pass: Each claim is source-stated by Hao and quoted accurately. The limitations correctly note that nothing is quantified. The question follows from her argument that companies have not adopted the alternatives and does not presuppose a new conclusion. The edit after publication does not affect these interview answers, which are clearly original content.

They also developed a license requiring any organization seeking to access their data to sign a legally binding agreement

media — pass: No media is selected, and no verified candidate media were supplied, so there is nothing to misidentify.

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